Cubs Wednesday: Per Rosenthal, Tanaka to the Yankees

If Ken Rosenthal is to be believed, the Tanaka sweepstakes is over, and he’s heading to New York.

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Reports of what the Cubs were offering Tanaka were right in that ballpark, so either Tanaka had a hankering for the Yankees or the Cubs weren’t very persuasive in their pitch. I guess Doc was right all along.

(Julie): I hate everything right now. Per Dave Kaplan, the Cubs not being ready to win was, in the end, the decision-maker for Tanaka. Um, I hate to tell you this, dude, but I’m not so sure the Yankees are “ready to win,” either.  I’m not so mad that the Yankees got him, because, let’s be honest, that was the most likely scenario all along, but that people in NYC and LA will chalk this up, once again, to “why would anyone want to go to Chicago? It’s not even on a coast!” So yes, I have all kinds of baggage with this decision and now I hate Japan. So.

Also, Paul Maholm is still in play!

38 thoughts on “Cubs Wednesday: Per Rosenthal, Tanaka to the Yankees

  1. Doc Blume says:

    The Yankees are at least able to compete well in the toughest division in baseball…and have likely passed the Rays and Orioles to be the second best team in that division. The Cubs are a last place team in one of the worst division in baseball and will likely stay there for another 2 years.

    The Cubs had nothing to offer this guy other than money…and money isn’t everything. The Cubs have shitty facilities. They have a shitty team. They don’t know who the hell is going to broadcast their games after this season. The weather sucks. Half the fan base is racist.

    So the Cubs need to continue their original plan of building from within.

    1. Dusty Baylor says:

      I dunno if the Yankees have passed the Rays. Jeter is 39..Teixeira is coming off a major injury, Beltran is 37, they’ve downgraded 2B and 3B (well..if A-Rod had played its a downgrade), they don’t have a closer, Sabathia is 33 and coming off an off year, and Kuroda is 39. If a couple of these guys start/keep showing their age, 85-77 will be looking pretty reasonable.

  2. juliedicaro says:

    That’s what I mean. Tanaka might be surprised.

  3. juliedicaro says:

    Damn. I really thought that last comment was going to nest.

    1. Dusty Baylor says:

      Hmm… no nesting?

  4. NotAgain says:

    Fuck the Yankees. That is all.

  5. sloanpeterson2 says:

    The Yankees are in rebuilding mode, but do not want to admit it. They have the $$ to throw at Tanaka, and obviously hope his wins will keep the Yankess in contention.I think that both Chicago teams did the best they could,but it’s hard to beat NYC and the Yankee legacy…

  6. Doc Blume says:

    They’ve added Elsbury and McCann…the Rays are going to trade their best pitcher and the truth is that their farm system is starting to dry up (which is why they need to trade Price). They are likely to get more out of Teixeira than they did last year. As you stated, third base is not a downgrade. 2nd base is a big down grade, no doubt. Sabathia looks to have lost about 50 lbs this off season. and might have a big rebound this year.

    The Yankees are a 90+ win team in my opinion. But I’m often wrong.

  7. Doc Blume says:

    Julie, the Yankees will compete for at least a wild card this year and know them for the foreseeable future. The Cubs aren’t going to compete for a wild card for at least another 2 years. You are asking him to waste two years of his contract. And he has Kuroda and Ichiro with him too. And it is a fan base that treats its players a hell of a lot better than Cubs fans treat their star players. There was no reason for him to come here except money…and it is sounding more and more like Tanaka’s agent used the Cubs to up the Yankees’ offer.

  8. juliedicaro says:

    Are you kidding about Yankees fans treating their stars better? Give me a break.

  9. Doc Blume says:

    Yankees fans would never have treated Alfonso Soriano, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez they way Cubs fans treated them.

    1. Dusty Baylor says:

      If Soriano underperformed for most of his years with the Yankees…I’d bet he’d get some rude treatment from Yankee fans.

  10. Doc Blume says:

    Don’t get me wrong…if you are a bum, Yankees fans will be brutal to you…and they would have run Ryan Theriot out of town…unlike most Cubs fans who still sing his praises.

    1. Dusty Baylor says:

      In Theriot’s defense…………. Uh…right.

  11. Doc Blume says:

    Looks like the Cubs went up to $150 million for Tanaka. Meh.

  12. johnnywest333 says:

    I reported that the deal was done yesterday and got a ton of Twitter shit for it. It was supposed to be announced yesterday but they had to wait for MLB clearence. I’ll leave the Tweeting for Doc and Julie from now on. I don’t take criticism very well. Oh well. Good times…

  13. juliedicaro says:

    Eh–par for the course on Twitter. I didn’t know where that rumor came from or I would have defended you. At least you haven’t been accused of making up a rape story to get more publicity.

  14. juliedicaro says:

    They couldn’t go to $160M? Pffft.

    1. Dusty Baylor says:

      Tanaka probably looked at the Cubs potential lineup for 2014, and said “Who the Eff are these guys?”

  15. juliedicaro says:

    No word that a rooftop deal between the Cubs and rooftop owners has fallen apart. We’re going to court, which is where we should have been all along. They should have had a judge involved months ago.

    1. Raythar says:

      Agreed. If the rooftops weren’t going to play ball, then let them bring up the suit and have the courts deal with it. At least this is SOMETHING, as opposed to a damn stand still.

  16. johnnywest333 says:

    I guess if my last name doesn’t end in “thal” or “vine” then my information is no good to TwitterVerse ha! oh well I’ll keep my info to myself next time. Or just let Julie report on it instead. ;)

  17. johnnywest333 says:

    Not nesting again…

  18. juliedicaro says:

    Ha. I get told to shut my stupid trap all the time on twitter.

  19. dabirdguy says:

    The guy lives on his splitter. Ask Bruce Sutter how hard that is on your arm.
    The more I read, the better I feel about NOT getting this guy for huge dollars.

  20. juliedicaro says:

    WHY IS DUSTY BAYLOR THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN NEST COMMENTS?

    1. Raythar says:

      MINE DID TOO (i think)

    2. Dusty Baylor says:

      Because Julie…..I”M BATMAN!

  21. J says:

    So I’m guessing that the Cubs now go out and stockpile spare parts that can be traded for for more young pitching at the trade deadline. The August trade deadline will be absolutely brutal, but the good news is we the fans will get to watch the first wave of “the future” start playing in MLB games.

  22. Doc Blume says:

    Reading the story on Crains, it’s hard to say what the overall effect will be on the renovations, but the Cubs are saying this current action will delay things even though the current lawsuit isn’t against them.

    It’s not too late to start planning to move to somewhere else. The money they’ve sunk into this so far is tiny compared to what they will be sinking into the ballpark. Just sink into a new ballpark instead of this place.

  23. Doc Blume says:

    Julie, in your legal experience, what sort of timetable are we looking at for resolution to this? And how quickly could a judge issue an order for the Cubs to cease any start of the renovations? Is this something that could likely be drawn out over just a few months or could it last years?

  24. juliedicaro says:

    No idea. A lot of factors come into play. HOWEVER, if the Cubs had just started construction, the RTA would have filed for an injunction, and they’d be in front of a judge tout de suite. Now, it would take months. And the only lawsuit I’ve heard of is the defamation suit.

  25. cfcarrico says:

    Maholm & Garza are still in play….Maybe they would love to comeback to Chicago for another go around….That way we could flip them at the trade deadline for more prospects….Deja Vu all over again….

  26. Doc Blume says:

    I’ve seen that interested teams are balking at Garza due to health concerns. That’s interesting.

    The problem with the Cubs in regards to Garza is that he’ll probably be looking for a long term deal…something probably wouldn’t want to do. And they won’t get a big haul of prospects for him this time around.

    Maholm might actually be a fit again as he tries to rebuild the market for himself after a lack-luster and injury-filled 2013.

  27. Doc Blume says:

    Julie, the Sun-Times story on this lawsuit made it sound like, with negotiations breaking down, the Cubs will move forward on getting a permit and put up the Budweiser sign in right field. That would likely move the rooftop owners to quickly move forward on any lawsuit they intend to file against the Cubs. It seems like the Cubs, based on their statements, expect that this is just the beginning of the court actions the rooftop owners are going to make…now they are going to try to push through it as quickly as possible.

    I have a relative in the Wrigleyville area who claims to know some people involved in this whole thing…I’m going to see if he knows anything about what is going on. He last told me that the owners’ biggest fear is what happens after the contract is over in 2023 and that they want, more than anything, is to have the contract with the Cubs extended. I’m not sure if that is still their stand, though.

  28. Doc Blume says:

    So now it is being reported that the Cubs weren’t even close in $ for Tanaka. I don’t know what to believe about anything anymore. I’m not even sure I believe the world is round now.

  29. juliedicaro says:

    I’m not all that convinced that Gammons gets good info anymore. Everyone else reported that the Cubs and Yankees were the last two teams. For him to say the Cubs were never seriously in it is hard to believe.

  30. Doc Blume says:

    Oh I completely agree. Gammon’s sources have pretty much gotten everything wrong in regards to Theo since he left Boston. I think I saw at least one other person say this as well…but those might have been Boston related reports as well.

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